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(Thanks for that tip - but aren't the parameter settings the responsibility of whatever UCI interface one is using?) Feb-03-18 zanzibar : Oh, wait, the engines can be run stand-alone too, though I rarely do that.
In the Opening Explorer, after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 0-0 d6 5 d4 ?! (2 games · 1871-1949) the Opening Explorer gives 5 . exd4 (126 games) or 5 . Nxd4 (1 game)
No you a chess hui does not change uci parameters by default. Only a user can change it. Feb-03-18 zanzibar : I run SCID, and it's gui has a UCI configure engine dialogue box.
Was the contempt setting then changed between v8 and v9? Feb-03-18 scholes : Yes in jan 2018 it was changed from 0 to 20. Largest contempt value which doesn't causes regression.
In general, a GUI has to send the UCI command to Stockfish. Feb-16-19 offramp : Stockfish 190203 (3588) versus LCZero v20.2-32930 (3404). TCEC Season 14 - Superfinal 16.1 2019.02.07 1-0 B06 Robatsch (modern) defence 120' + 15". Can you see SF's surprise move?
White is up a pawn, but its a draw due to opposite colored bishops.
1) -0.42 (18 ply) 5. ♗xd4 6.♘g5 ♘h6 7.c3 ♗b6 8.h3 O-O 9.♘f3 ♘a5 10.♗d3 ♗e6 11.♘a3 ♘c6 12.♘g5 ♗d7 13.♘c4 ♔h8 14.♘xb6.
In my old Chessbase GUI one can set this parameter during engine installation (it failed to change it for an existing engine).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/. Feb-01-18 scholes : Stockfish 9 released. 60 elo stronger than sf8 in self test. Would be more in rating list due to new contempt in sf9. Stockfish has 20 as default contempt. Use 0 contempt for analysis unless you what it does. Feb-03-18 zanzibar : SF download page:
http://abrok.eu/stockfish/ Dec-10-18 Telemus : Stockfish is quite strong, but it seems to be difficult to analyse with it. See what I mean.
Last updated: 2018-12-03 07:10:17 page 1 of 15; games 1-25 of 366 Game Result Moves Year Event/Locale Opening 1. Stockfish vs Rybka 0-1 78 2009 3rd WCRCC D14 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Exchange Variation 2. Stockfish vs Crafty 1-0 74 2013 nTCEC - Stage 1 A10 English 3. Stockfish vs Rybka 1-0 66 2013 nTCEC - Stage 1 B53 Sicilian 4. Stockfish vs Critter ½-½ 67 2013 nTCEC - Stage 2a A10 English 5. Critter vs Stockfish ½-½ 56 2013 nTCEC - Stage 2a A10 English 6. Stockfish vs Rybka 0-1 53 2013 nTCEC - Stage 3 B33 Sicilian 7. Stockfish vs Chiron 1-0 52 2013 nTCEC - Stage 3 C12 French, McCutcheon 8. HIARCS vs Stockfish 0-1 54 2013 nTCEC - Stage 3 A52 Budapest Gambit 9. Stockfish vs Rybka 1-0 42 2013 nTCEC - Stage 4 B03 Alekhine's Defense 10. Houdini vs Stockfish 0-1 87 2013 nTCEC - Stage 4 C18 French, Winawer 11. Rybka vs Stockfish ½-½ 42 2013 nTCEC - Stage 4 B03 Alekhine's Defense 12. Stockfish vs Houdini 0-1 76 2013 nTCEC - Stage 4 - Season 1 C70 Ruy Lopez 13. Stockfish vs Houdini ½-½ 61 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season D45 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav 14. Houdini vs Stockfish ½-½ 41 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season D45 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav 15. Stockfish vs Houdini ½-½ 56 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season 1 D99 Grunfeld Defense, Smyslov 16. Houdini vs Stockfish 1-0 53 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season D98 Grunfeld, Russian 17. Stockfish vs Houdini ½-½ 87 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season E12 Queen's Indian 18. Houdini vs Stockfish ½-½ 69 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season E15 Queen's Indian 19. Stockfish vs Houdini ½-½ 60 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season E04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3 20. Houdini vs Stockfish 1-0 67 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season E04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3 21. Stockfish vs Houdini ½-½ 109 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season 1 B04 Alekhine's Defense, Modern 22. Houdini vs Stockfish ½-½ 60 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season 1 B04 Alekhine's Defense, Modern 23. Houdini vs Stockfish ½-½ 80 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season C14 French, Classical 24. Stockfish vs Houdini ½-½ 47 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season A10 English 25. Houdini vs Stockfish 1-0 79 2013 nTCEC - Superfinal - Season A10 English page 1 of 15; games 1-25 of 366 REFINE SEARCH: White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2) | Stockfish wins | Stockfish loses · PAGE 12 OF 12 · Later Kibitzing> Jan-10-18 scholes : Current sf dev version now 50 elo stronger than sf8. Halfway to alphazero ☺️.
SF 10 evaluates the starting position at depths 25-30 as favouring White: at least +0.57. But if I execute its favourite move (e4), then - at the same depths - the evaluation is close to 0.00, several times even negative. The same observation holds for many opening positions and I oberved it already with SF 9.
On chess.com this move is said as an INACCURACY.
In the following position, Black to play:
It's misleading because of aggressive adaptive pruning, or so I believe, where SF seems to be getting stuck in a local min/max.
https://syzygy-tables.info/?fen=8/8. May-26-19 MissScarlett : Is the best program to use with Stockshit or are they much of a muchness? Jul-27-19 Ron : In the following position, White to play:
I still use it, put try to walk through the actual game moves to seed a position before letting it really simmer the pot/position. Dec-10-18 Molotok : This is a feature called contempt which adds some amount of centipawns to evaluation so that the engine tries to avoid draws by picking slightly "worse" positions that let the game continue. It was to counter the old weakness of SF8 that had the tendency to quickly accept draws against much weaker opponents and was introduced in SF9. I think you can at least turn it off for analysis by switching "analysis contempt" option to "off". Dec-11-18 Telemus : Thank you very much for your replies!
Did anybody else notice that SF enjoys to have the move so much? And how shall I analyse with it?
https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-t. Nov-30-18 WorstPlayerEver : Congrats on your 10th anniversary! Nov-30-18 scholes : sf 10 released.

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Again, apologies. Apr-14-18 HeMateMe : stock up!
PS- I disagree with the statement that only a user can change it - as the gui's can store settings and send them to the engine at startup. I haven't looked at the details of the code - so I don't exactly who does what, when. Feb-03-18 zanzibar : Apologies - but my previous post is in error, probably because I didn't properly do the SF8 to SF9 upgrade.
Stockfish (Computer) Number of games in database: 366 Years covered: 2009 to 2018.
There is a drawing line--only one--for Black which starts with Rb3.
As of 2016, Stockfish is one of the two strongest chess engines in the world, with Komodo (Computer), and the strongest open-source engine. It won TCEC season 6 in 2014, defeating Komodo in the superfinal.
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White to move. Feb-16-19 vonKrolock : Leela crashed in an equal position during the 66th game. May-03-19 Ron : Hopefully a small contribution to chess knowledge:
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Apparently an early release got out, somewhat mistakenly:
Stockfish originated as a fork of Tord Romstad's Glaurung (Computer), improved by Marco Costalba, Romstad and Joona Kiiski. It is now developed by the Stockfish community, using Gary Linscott's Fishtest testing framework to test new code.
Is there any method for testing what Contempt setting an engine really is running with other than looking at the UCI configure window?
I've made similar observations/comments several times in the past.
Stockfish 9 evaluates the position: + (1.21) Depth=59/68 0:20:01 2824 MN.
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Redoing it you were right, the SF9 engine does have the new Contempt setting by default when first starting. SCID's UIC config dialog can be used to reset it, and thereafter use the new setting (I put it back to 0).
I don't think that you can say that any chess engine GUI that supports the UCI protocol can be considered better or worse to use with a particular engine. The motivation behind the UCI protocol (and any protocol) is to be able to communicate with any chess engine that supports that protocol without knowing what engine it is communicating with.
However, that is an over evaluation.
Stockfish 9 over-evaluates this position for White:
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The Monte Carlo methods used by Rybka and AlphaZero would probably determine an accurate evaluation. Jul-27-19 AylerKupp : Is the best program to use with Stockshit or are they much of a muchness?>
When I run it with SF9 it comes up with Contempt = 0.
MOST PLAYED OPENINGS With the White pieces: Ruy Lopez (27) C67 C65 C95 C69 C63 Sicilian (19) B80 B90 B40 B32 B78 French Defense (9) C11 C14 C02 C18 C12 King's Indian (7) E81 E84 E60 E99 E87 Slav (6) D16 D17 D14 D10 Giuoco Piano (6) C50 C53 With the Black pieces: Queen's Indian (43) E15 E17 E16 E18 E12 French Defense (19) C11 C02 C18 C14 C05 Sicilian (18) B80 B48 B40 B43 B78 English (16) A17 A10 A18 A15 Nimzo Indian (16) E21 E47 E46 E32 E53 Queen's Pawn Game (12) E00 A45 E10 D02 A50.
Stockfish runs on Linux, Windows or Mac OS X platforms, as well as mobile platforms such as the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Various installations have supported set-ups such as 8 Gbytes for a hashtable with an 8-core processor under its UCI protocol.
Stockfish describes the parameter as follows: where X = 24 for SF10, X = 20 for SF9, and X = 0 for SF8. (Looks like the default behaviour for analysis vs play was changed from SF8 to SF9.)
I also like evaluation profiles of whole games (e.g. https://uscfsales.wordpress.com/201. ). But if I use SF for evaluation it varies from ply to ply so often by 50+ centipawns, although the best move was played. In these cases the impression one gets from the profile is absolutely misleading. Dec-10-18 zanzibar : Did anybody else notice that SF enjoys to have the move so much? And how shall I analyse with it?>
Here are the games and more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpk. . May-18-18 oolalimk1 : in the last 21 games here Stockfish did not win a single game. Aug-11-18 Penguincw : Norwegian Stockfish 160518 finishes tied for 1st at the TCEC Season 12 - Premier Division tournament, with 24.5/39.
+ (1.01) Depth=87/89 2286 kN/s.
Stockfish 9 recently played a match on lichess.org vs. Neural Network AI Leela Chess Zero ID:185, which is similar to AlphaZero.
Some people have suggested not trusting SF at least than a depth of 40-ply or more, which puts it outside the powerband of my laptop for definitive analysis.
Playing a given move forces it to explore that move to a similar depth, seeding the cache properly, if returning to original position.
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